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ME: What is that you are eating?
THEM: Hamburger.
ME: No it isn't. It is meat.
THEM: No it isn't. It is protein.
ME: No it isn't. It is a lifeless object.
THEM: No it isn't. It is part of a dead cow.
ME: No it isn't. It is digestible food.
THEM: Your Bible cannot be true because of mistranslations. Your KJV calls this thing on my plate: "hamburger." Your ASV calls it: "meat." Your RSV calls it: "protein." Your NLT calls it: "a lifeless object." Your NIV calls it: "part of a dead cow." And your TEV calls it: "digestable food." So WHICH IS it?
ME: Let's look at what YOU questionably and probably mis-call YOUR "jewish" or "islamic" "holy" or "sacred" writings.
Concerning - and not "regarding" - YOUR various and clearly-DIFFERENTLY-worded renditions (and I would rather NOT call any one or all of THEM: "translations" to not pollute nor defile the word), why do some of YOUR plainly-homosexuality-oriented subject-matter buzz-terms of First Corinthians 6 verse 9 state the word: "homosexuals" while others state: "catamites" while others state: "abusers of themselves with mankind" [whatever THAT means and does not mean], while others state: "sodomites?"
THEM: I don't know. It's merely the oral-tradition commentary-explanation of various sometimes-dastardly-deviant opinions of various ludicrously-discrepant-against-each-other rabbis, prophets, ayatollahs, imams and whoever else is supposed to be more authoritative than someone else.
ME: The Greek word in BOTH the significantly-corrupt Westcott-Hort or Nestle Greek texts, and the inerrant-and-infallible Scrivener Trinitarian Greek Text is: arsenokoitai -- a unique and singular Greek word which ALWAYS and ONLY means: "sodomites."
So WHAT if deplorably-different English pseudo-"translations" have mis-associated that one word with all sorts of goofy and non-goofy English-translation words? There IS one best word: SODOMITES for that Greek-Text word: arsenokoitai...and it's a shame that various English "translators" of different-rendition "bibles" did not agree and get their act together to state that one-and-only proper, simple, concise, and applicable English word: SODOMITES for the Greek word: "arsenokoitai."
THEM: I, as a jew/muslim, have a problem with your non-Virgin-Mary-who-obviously-never-was-sinlessly-"Immaculate" concepts of many gods....which you call: "the Trinity" - AND that you imagine the ridiculous supposition that God had a son, AND that your Old and New Testament "bibles" are corrupted. What hospital was "god's son" allegedly born in, and where is his birth certificate? We already have enough of an issue with Barack Hussein Obama [a.k.a. Indonesian-foreign-exchange-student Barry Soetoro] not admitting that he was born in Kenya instead of Hawaii according to a document available to view at http://layleftlayrite.tripod.com and elsewhere on the Web.
ME: So, YOU - as a self-proclaimed "jew" - have trouble with the concept of a Trinitarian Godhead of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit?
THEM: Darn right. WHERE in my Jewish - or what you call "Old Testament" - Bible does it ever say that there is a multi-person "god" when it clearly has been recorded that mindlessly-mouthed mantra: "Hear O Israel: The LORD our God is One?"
ME: "One" WHAT?
THEM: GOD, you imbecile - what did you THINK? We don't worship a whole bunch of different totem-pole idols, you know.
ME: Yeah, I know. As Isaiah 44 states:
6 Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and His Redeemer, the LORD of hosts [WHAT is that "His Redeemer" bit? WHAT does THAT mean or imply?]: "I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god.
7 Who is like me? Let him proclaim it, let him declare and set it forth before me. Who has announced from of old the things to come? Let them tell us what is yet to be.
8 Fear not, nor be afraid; have I not told you from of old and declared it? And you are my witnesses! Is there a God besides me? There is no Rock; I know not any."
9 All who make idols are nothing, and the things they delight in do not profit; their witnesses neither see nor know, that they may be put to shame.
10 Who fashions a god or casts an image, that is profitable for nothing?
11 Hey, all his fellows shall be put to shame, and the craftsmen are but men; let them all assemble, let them stand forth, they shall be terrified, they shall be put to shame together.
12 The ironsmith fashions it and works it over the coals; he shapes it with hammers, and forges it with his strong arm; he becomes hungry and his strength fails, he drinks no water and is faint.
13 The carpenter stretches a line, he marks it out with a pencil; he fashions it with planes, and marks it with a compass; he shapes it into the figure of a man, with the beauty of a man, to dwell in a house.
14 He cuts down cedars; or he chooses a holm tree or an oak and lets it grow strong among the trees of the forest; he plants a cedar and the rain nourishes it.
15 Then it becomes fuel for a man; he takes a part of it and warms himself, he kindles a fire and bakes bread; also he makes a god and worships it, he makes it a graven image and falls down before it.
16 Half of it he burns in the fire; over the half he eats flesh, he roasts meat and is satisfied; also he warms himself and says: "Aha, I am warm, I have seen the fire!"
17 And the remainder of it he makes into a god, his idol; and falls down to it and worships it; he prays to it and says: "Deliver me, for thou art my god!"
18 They know not, nor do they discern; for He has shut their eyes, so that they cannot see, and their minds, so that they cannot understand.
19 No one considers, nor is there knowledge or discernment to say: "Half of it I burned in the fire, I also baked bread on its coals, I roasted flesh and have eaten; and shall I make the residue of it an abomination? Shall I fall down before a block of wood?"
20 He feeds on ashes; a deluded mind has led him astray, and he cannot deliver himself or say: "Is there not a lie in my right hand?"
THEM: Spot on. So where do you come up with your goofy idea of multiple gods?
ME: A few of your "Jewish" Old-Testament Scripture verses:
Psalm 82:6 I say: "You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you;
John 10:34 Jesus answered them: "Is it not written in your law: 'I said: you are gods'?"
And YOU have a PROBLEM with God having a "Son?" Then what about:
Psalm 110:1 A Psalm of David. The LORD says to my Lord: "Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool."
Matthew 22:41 Now while the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them a question:
42 saying: "What do you think of the Christ? Whose Son is He?" They said to Him: "The Son of David."
43 He said to them: "How is it then that David, inspired by the Spirit, calls Him "Lord," saying:
44 The Lord said to my Lord: "Sit at my right hand, until I put your enemies under your feet?"
45 If David thus calls Him "Lord" how is He his Son?"
And how about this one:
Proverbs 30:4 Who has ascended to heaven and come down? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has wrapped up the waters in a garment? Who has established all the ends of Earth? What is His name, and what is His Son's name? Surely you know!
Added to that:
Isaiah 9:6 For to us a Child is born, to us a Son is given; and the government will be upon His shoulder, and His name will be called: "Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father [WHAT??? "Father?" REALLY? And we sure are not talking the Pope here!], Prince of Peace."
So, is it not CRYSTAL clear that - at least to any idiot with even a FAINT trace of capacity for contemplating the most basic and elemental common sense and logic, and who is not laughably stupid nor woefully dull of mind - that there definitely is a Supernatural (though understandably mysterious) Family arrangement of Divinity of Father and Son - as Jesus put it?
THEM: SEEMS so - I guess.
ME: "SEEMS" so? Can't you do BETTER than THAT? C'mon, get WITH it; DON'T be an goof. THINK!
THEM: OK OK. Take it easy. Seems like you hate me.
ME: I do, to some extent.
THEM: I thought that your religion commanded you to always love me in spite of my asinine and accursed ignorance.
ME: Not so. You thought WRONG.
THEM: You hate me enough to now injure or kill me?
ME: I'm thinking about it. However, a few Old-Testament/Koranic? platitudes restrain me:
Proverbs 3:30 Do not contend against [NOT "with"] a man for no reason, when he has done you no harm.
3:29 Do not plan evil against your neighbor who dwells trustingly beside you.
14:17 A man of quick temper acts foolishly, but a man of discretion is patient.
First Corinthians 13:4 Love is patient and kind; love is not jealous or boastful;
First Thessalonians 5:14 And we exhort you, brethren, admonish the idlers, encourage the fainthearted, help the weak, be patient with them all.
Second Timothy 2:23 Have nothing to do with stupid, senseless controversies; you know that they breed quarrels.
24 And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kindly to every one, an apt teacher, forbearing,
25 correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant that they will repent and come to know the truth,
26 and they may escape from the snare of the Devil, after being captured by him to do his will.
Hebrews 5:1 For every high priest chosen from among men is appointed to act on behalf of humans in relation to God, to offer gifts and sacrifices for sins.
2 He can deal gently with the ignorant and wayward, being that he himself is beset with weakness.
3 Because of this he is bound to offer sacrifice for his own sins as well as for those of the people.
4 And one does not take the honor upon himself, but he is called by God, just as Aaron was.
5 So also Christ did not exalt Himself to be made a high priest, but was appointed by Him who said to Him: "You are my Son, today I have begotten you";
8 Although he was a Son, He learned obedience through what He suffered;
9 and being made perfect He became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey [not simply have "faith" in] Him...
THEM: I consider myself fortunate.
ME: So do I.
THEM: Consider ME fortunate?
ME: You still have a head on you.
THEM: But where did God the Voice ever publicly convey audible tenor-or-bass Sonship credentials to His "Son" Jesus Christ?
ME: No problem answering that one:
Matthew 3:17 ...and wow, a Voice from heaven, saying: "This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased."
Matthew 17:5 He was still speaking, when wow, a bright cloud overshadowed them, and a Voice from the cloud said: "This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased; listen to Him."
Mark 1:11 ...and a Voice came from Heaven: "You are my beloved Son; with you I am well pleased."
Mark 9:7 And a cloud overshadowed them [while on the Mount of Transfiguration], and a Voice came out of the cloud: "This is my beloved Son; listen to Him."
Second Peter 1:17 For when he received honor and glory from God the Father and the Voice was borne to Him by the Majestic Glory [while on the Mount of Transfiguration]: "This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased,"
Second Peter 1:18 we heard that Voice borne from Heaven, for we were with Him on the holy mountain.
THEM: A "Voice" from "Heaven." Sounds spooky. Ooooooooooo. REALLY?
ME: Oh, c'mon now. You, as a self-proclaimed "jew," should immediately recall the following:
Exodus 3:1 Now Moses was keeping the flock of his father-in-law, Jethro, the priest of Midian; and he led his flock to the west side of the wilderness, and came to Horeb, the mountain of God.
2 And the angel of the LORD appeared to him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush; and he looked, and wow, the bush was burning, yet it was not consumed.
3 And Moses the Inquiring Scientist said: "I will turn aside and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt."
4 [rough paraphrase] When the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called to him out of the bush: "Moses, Moses!" And he replied: "Here am I." G-d ordered: "Go barefoot for a while."
6 And He said: "I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob." And Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look at God.
7 [rough paraphrase] Then the LORD said: "I have seen the affliction of my people who are in Egypt and British-refugee pilgrim pioneers who have landed on the east end of the United States, and have heard their cry because oppressive-"anglican" King George and the Brit-redcoat taskmasters; I know their taxation sufferings,
8 [rough paraphrase] and I have come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians, Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda, the Muslim Brotherhood, "Death-to-Israel/Death-to-America" Iranians and Iraqis and ISIS/ISIL....especially Obamanation.....and to bring them up out of that land to a good and broad land, a land flowing with milk and honey, of stampeding herds of buffalo, the Rocky Mountains, to the place of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Amorites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, Jebusites, Arapahoe, Chippewa, Sioux, Aztec, Incas, Comanche, Apache, and Hopi indigenous indians.
9 [rough paraphrase] And now, hey, the cry of the people of Israel and other early-American puritannical constitutionalists of the founding fathers has come to me, and I have seen the oppression with which the Egyptians and half-naked-savage, animal-spirits-idolizing, red-skinned-scalpers oppress them.
10 Come, I will send you to Pharaoh that you may bring forth my people, the sons of Israel, out of Egypt."
11 [rough paraphrase] But Moses, Ben-Hur Charles Heston, and Patriot Mel Gibson said to God: "Who am I that I should go to Pharaoh, and bring the sons of Israel out of Egypt?"
There's more:
Numbers 7:89 And when Moses went into the tent of meeting to speak with the LORD, he heard the Voice speaking to him from above the mercy seat that was upon the ark of the testimony, from between the two cherubim; and It spoke to him.
You believe that that ACTUALLY happened?
THEM: Of COURSE I do. Why do we claim the non-fable non-mythical historical news report that we must have escaped through the wind-blown waves-parted Red Sea with water-wall levels so high that when they collapsed the entire Egyptian Army was drowned, yet we survived and continue to exist as we do now? Duh.
ME: OK OK. You hate me now?
THEM: Why should I? Would it help?
ME: Sounds like the smoking Russian spy defended by Tom Hanks in the popular movie: Bridge of Spies.
THEM: Nothing like due process, even for a pacified commie. Have any more proof that Yahweh, or: The LORD (with all caps) - or: GOD (again, with all caps) is a Divine Three-Parter, A Combo Three-in-One Creator?
ME: Sure. Consider this:
First John 5:7 [KJV, KJ21, MKJV, etc.] There are Three Who bear record in Heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these Three are One.
THEM: A lot of heretic-apostate pseudo-"scholar" assholes claim that there is absolutely no Greek basis for that verse.
ME: As you said, they are demented despicable goofs. There IS plenty of proof for that Trinitarian inclusion in the First Epistle of Saint John - although they and infidel jews and infidel muslim have done their worst to scrub and eradicate it.
THEM: Any other proofs?
ME: But of course. John 10:30 reads: "I and the Father are one."
THEM: "One" WHAT? One is spirit? Attitude? One in reproductive functioning? Digestive preferences?
Skin color? Foreign language?
ME: Good question. Sort of relates to the following:
Hebrews 2:11 [RSV-type] For He who sanctifies and those who are sanctified have all one origin. That is why He is not ashamed to call them brethren.......
Hebrews 2:11 [KJV/KJ21/MKJV-type] For both He who sanctifies and they who are sanctified are all of One, for which cause He is not ashamed to call them brethren....
THEM: So WHICH of your Three Gods is considered THE Almighty-Power/Jedi-Force Creator of All Environmental Entities Which Exist?
ME: As it states:
John 1:1 In the beginning was "the Word," and "the Word" was with God, and "the Word" WAS God.
2 HE [NOT "she"] was in the beginning with God;
3 all things were made through Him [NOT "her"], and without Him was not anything made that was made.
14 And the Word became flesh and lived among us, full of grace and truth; we have seen and considered His glory, glory as the only Son [NOT "daughter"] from the Father.
18 No one has ever seen God; the only Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, has made Him [NOT "it"] known.
Colossians 1:11 [RSV] May you be strengthened with all power, according to His [NOT "her"] glorious might, for all endurance and patience with joy,
12 giving thanks to the Father [NOT "mother" - Mary nor whoever the hell else], who has qualified us to share in the inheritance of the saints in light.
13 He has delivered us from the dominion of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son,
14 in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
15 He [NOT "she"] is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation;
16 for in Him all things were created, in heaven and on Earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or authorities -- all things were created through Him and for Him.
17 He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.
18 He is the head of the body, the church; He is the beginning, the first-born from the dead, that in everything He might be pre-eminent.
19 For in Him all the fullness of God was pleased to reside...
Colossians 1:19 [KJ21] For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of His will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding;
10 that ye might walk worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing Him, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;
11 strengthened with all might according to His glorious power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness;
12 giving thanks unto the Father, who hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light.
13 He hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the Kingdom of His dear Son
14 in whom we have redemption through His blood [WHY the HELL did the RSV leave THAT phrase OUT?], even the forgiveness of sins.
15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature.
16 For by Him were all things created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones or dominions or principalities or powers: all things were created by Him and for Him.
17 And He is before all things, and by Him all things consist.
18 And He is the head of the body, the church. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He might have the preeminence.
19 For it pleased the Father that in Him should all fullness dwell...
THEM: The two "translations" above do NOT read the SAME. The EXACT word-choice semantics are DIFFERENT. VERY different! THAT really SUCKS. WHICH one am I supposed to have the congregation agree to read in PRECISE PERFECT UNISON? What am I supposed to do about that?
ME: Let me quote another:
Hebrews 1:1 [RSV-type] In many and various ways God spoke of old to our fathers by the prophets;
2 but in these last days He has spoken to us by [His] Son, whom He appointed the heir of all things, through whom also He created the world.
3 He reflects the glory of God and bears the very stamp of His nature, upholding the universe by His word of power. [After] He had made purification for sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,
8 But of the Son [God] says: "Your throne, God, is forever, the righteous scepter is the scepter of your kingdom.
9 You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness beyond your comrades."
10 And, "You, Lord, did found Earth in the beginning, and the heavens are the work of your hands;
11 they will perish, but you remain; they will all grow old like a garment,
12 like a mantle you will roll them up, and they will be changed. But you are the same, and your years will never end."
Hebrews 1:1 [KJ21] God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spoke in times past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 hath in these last days spoken unto us by His Son, whom He hath appointed Heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds.
3 He is the brightness of God's glory and the express image of His person, upholding all things by the word of His power. When He had by Himself purged our sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,
8 But unto the Son He saith, "Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever; a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Thy Kingdom.
9 Thou hast loved righteousness and hated iniquity; therefore God, even Thy God, hath anointed Thee with the oil of gladness above Thy fellows."
10 And, "Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the works of Thine hands.
11 They shall perish, but Thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment.
THEM: "WAX" old? What the duce kind of absurd, outmoded, and archaic semantics is THAT? See, WHAT did I ALREADY TELL you concerning the screwed-up discrepant-against-each-other wordings of your various English-"bible" mistranslations? How the peach do I know WHICH one to DEFINITIVELY and AUTHORITATIVELY quote, as to what EXACTLY is corrupt and what EXACTLY is not corrupt?
ME: That admittedly IS a problem, and a DARNED unfortunate one at that, I agree. But can't you be satisfied with merely getting the jist of all of them, instead of LEGALISTICALLY NITPICKING?
THEM: NO I CANNOT! And thanks a LOT....for NOTHING!!!
ME: Well, the ORIGINAL Text HAS been PERFECTLY preserved...it's just that you have to go looking for it.
THEM: WHERE is THAT?
ME: Available at Baker Book House, Hendrickson Publishers, Sovereign Grace Publishers, and more are copies of the Rudolf-Kittel-edited BIBLIA HEBRAICA Hebrew Text of Rabbi ben Asher from the 10th Century (the guy who added the Masoretic vowels to the Hebrew-consonant lettering)....which IS, in FACT, THE inerrant Old-Testament Text....and F.H.A. Scrivener's Trinitarian Greek Text of the New Testament, synthesized and compiled from the best of previous scholars Erasmus, Elzevir, Beza, and Stephens, which is THE inerrant New-Testament Text.
THEM: HOW do you KNOW that?
ME: GOD told me.
THEM: You're scary. Frightening.
ME: I can't help it if the concocters of English "translations"/mistranslations screwed up translating the original Hebrew and original Greek Texts into screwed-up English-word variations.
THEM: No, I can't blame you for that either. But it's a hael of a fhd-up situation, to be sure.
ME: Dahm right.
THEM: And how about that THIRD part of "the Triune God" - the "Spirit?" Where is THAT part of GOD ever mentioned in my Tanach Torah/Prophets/Writings "Old Testament" and my different-editions Qur'an/Koran/whatever?
ME: Piece of cake, or piece of pie, or whatever else you prefer:
Genesis 1:2 There was no Big-Bang-Baloney, and THE Earth was a deep watery blob in the absolutely-black sun-less/star-less darkness, and the Spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters, NOT the face of the molten lava.
Genesis 41:38 And Pharaoh said to his servants: "Can we find such a man as this, in whom is the Spirit of God?"
Judges 14:6 And the Spirit of the LORD came mightily upon [Samson], and he tore the lion apart as one rips apart a Trump or Obama-Biden bumper sticker; and he had nothing in his hand. But he did not tell his father or his mother what he had done.
Judges 15:14 When he came to Lehi, the Philistines came shouting to meet him; and the Spirit of the LORD came mightily upon him, and the ropes which were on his arms became as flax that has caught fire, and his bonds melted off his hands.
First Samuel 16:14 Now the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD tormented him.
First Samuel 19:20 Then Saul sent messengers to take David; and when they saw the company of the prophets prophesying, and Samuel standing as head over them, the Spirit of God came upon the messengers of Saul, and they also prophesied.
Second Chronicles 15:1 The Spirit of God came upon Azariah the son of Oded...
20:14 And the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jahaziel the son of Zechariah, son of Benaiah, son of Jeiel, son of Mattaniah, a Levite of the sons of Asaph, in the midst of the assembly.
24:20 Then the Spirit of God took possession of Zechariah the son of Jehoiada the priest; and he stood above the people, and said to them: Thus says God: "Why do you transgress the commandments of the LORD, so that you cannot prosper? Because you have rejected the LORD, He has rejected you."
Job 33:4 The Spirit of God has made me, and the breath of the Almighty gives me life.
Isaiah 11:2 And the Spirit of the LORD shall rest upon Him: the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and might, the Spirit of knowledge and the fear of the LORD.
Isaiah 40:13 Who has directed the Spirit of the LORD, or as His counselor has instructed Him?
Isaiah 61:1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me, because the LORD has anointed me to bring good news to the afflicted; He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to those who are bound...
Matthew 12:31 Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven humans, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.
Luke 4:18 "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim release to the captives and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed..."
THEM: Sounds like philanthropic love, instead of hate. If God is love, why do men and women exhibit hate?
ME: Whoever said that God is men and women? Why blame God for the hate that hateful men and particularly hateful women do against each other? Are you blasphemously equating the loving God with hateful humanity? What kind of a humanity-worshipping asshole ARE you?
THEM: WHY do you include WOMEN in on all this? Are you misogynous, not trusting women as you display male supremacy?
ME: YOU mentioned women FIRST.
Misogyny, according to PROPER dictionary definitions, is actually malicious hatred or hostility against women as a gender.
You misconstrue what Scripture itself says about the inferior gender, as Saint Peter calls them with his "weaker vessel" term in First Peter 3:7?
As far as not trusting them, what the peach do you think of such NON-anti-woman Bible verses as:
Ecclesiastes 7:26 And I found more bitter than death the woman whose heart is snares and nets, and whose hands are fetters; he who pleases God escapes her, but the sinner is taken by her.
27 "Hey, this is what I found," says the Preacher, "adding one thing to another to find the sum,
28 which my mind has sought repeatedly, but I have not found. One man among a thousand I found, but a woman among all these I have not found.
29 Hey, this alone I found, that God made man upright, but they have sought out many devices."
Isaiah 3:12 My people: bratty, shrieking, obtrusively-scribbling-chalk-on-sidewalk-entrances children are their oppressors, and feminist-sexist/chauvinist women rule over them. Oh my people, your leaders mislead you, and confuse the course of your paths.
Isaiah 3:13 The [UNCONDITIONAL-love? Are you KIDDING? Are you INSANE?] LORD has taken His place to contend, He stands to judge His people [with non-peacefully-coexisting intolerance against cultural diversity repressing arrogant and selfish free expression of self-esteem?].
Nahum 3:12 All your fortresses are like fig trees with first-ripe figs: if shaken they fall into the mouth of the eater.
Nahum 3:13 Hey, your troops are women around you. The gates of your land are wide open to your foes; fire has devoured your 9112001 fortresses.
First Corinthians 11:4 Any man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head,
5 but any woman who prays or prophesies with her head unveiled dishonors her head; it is the same as if her head were shaven.
6 For if a woman will not veil herself, then she should cut off her hair; but if it is disgraceful for a woman to be shorn or shaven, have [and not simply: "let"] her wear a veil.
7 For a man MUST NOT [NOT "should not"] cover his head [while praying, even with a "jewish" beanie, kippah, skullcap, whatever] -- being that he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man.
8 Man was not made from woman, but woman from man.
9 Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.
10 That is why a woman ought to have a veil on her head, because of the angels [whatever the duce THAT means].
11 Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man nor man of woman;
12 for as woman was made from man, so man is now born of woman. And all things are from God.
13 Judge for yourselves; is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered?
14 Does not nature itself teach you that for a man to wear long hair is degrading to him,
15 but if a woman has [mopheaded loose] long hair [not tied into a back-of-head single ponytail, or into an up-do], it is her glory, because her hair is given to her for a covering.
16 If any one wants to be contentious, we recognize no SUCH practice of allowing a woman to regard her gawd-damned sexually-glorious loose long hair pseudo-innocently but diabolically-silently-flaunted in general public view as adequate for a prayer covering or veil, nor do the churches of God.
First Timothy 2:8 I desire then that in every mixed-gender public place...
9 ...the women have themselves pre-adorned modestly and sensibly in decent apparel, not with hair decorations nor gold nor pearls nor costly clothing
10 but by good WORKS "justifying them" as James 2:24 states and not merely "deeds," as "befits" women who profess religion.
11 Have a woman learn in silence with all subjection and not merely submissiveness.
12 I allow or permit or license NO woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent, or in other words: SHUT UP!
13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve;
14 and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.
15 Yet woman will be saved by bearing children instead of abusing themselves with condoms, contraceptive pills, transsexual mutilization, abortion homicide, whatever - IF she continues in faith and love and holiness, with sobriety.
THEM: Kinky.
ME: Irrevocably.